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Josh Jordison

Very nice model. I think it is a very effective way of explaining the general scheme of the war, especially to anyone who knows little or nothing about it. Keep it up! Great Blog.

-Josh

Andreas Krey

Good stuff. One nit, however: The kurds are a rather oppressed minority in turkey, and the turkish government is unhappy about their armed kurds having a refuge in northern iraq.

jeff monday

@Andreas - This is an excellent point. I will have to make the change to the model. Really it is only the Iraqi Kurds and not Turkey that is rooting for the Turks to have their own independent state.

lol

"In order to understand the instability in Iraq, ... the U.S. from halfway around the world trying to figure it all out!"

I loled once...


"In 2003 the U.S. invaded Iraq based on incorrect information that the country, and more specifically Saddam, possessed weapons of mass destruction."

I loled twice...

"To do this, the U.S. military had to get the Iraqi civilians to not see them as an outside force, invading their land and killing innocent people, but as a peace keeping force that was there to help rebuild."

I loled thrice...

thanks for the lols :)

Lol too

Lol, totally!

Great exercise in naive/blinkered oversimplification or revisionism. Speaking of revisionism, people (revisionist mainly) ask what will the Bush legacy be? Will he later be seen as a strong minded leader in a time of great trouble instead of the incompetent cuckooed president his current public reputation rests on?

Answer is of course he'll become a Great President after death. Look at the way US transformed Reagan into a cold-war king who brought peace to the world using a massive arms-race and crippling deficit. Funny thing is they credit a catholic Pope with defeating Communism too. Perhaps they did it together, just the two of them.

I like these graphics a bit but this one seriously demonstrates the primacy of word over image when analysing history and social phenomenon.

Lol too

Afghanistan is also a "centrally located country in the middle east" which actually is the purported source of the 911 attacks conception and more central (used to be called the crossroads of the east). Yet the US choose to totally ignore Afghanistan, despite the huge Taliban and narcotics trade escalation in same period, perhaps you should consider why?

US interests in Iraq were manifold and very very deep, but the well-being of the Iraqi people were and remain incidental to that administrations needs.

Isq Kohen

COIN strategy in Iraq was practiced by Gen Patreus by giving $Millions of cash to different factions at the same time, providing arms to tribal honchos, providing more weekly gobs of $cash to keep people away from making, scouting to place IDE's.

Not exactly a sustainable strategy. This is buying the notion of 'victory' vs. giving cash (a form of opimum) to secure cleavage of safety for the troops.

Does not jive with your surface level analysis.

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